Respect in Fandom
Sep. 28th, 2010 10:19 amSo I just read a journal entry that kinda pissed me off. It was about respect in fandom. A fandom in which I was heavily involved in too. I know that I started the drama I was involved in, but where was my respect after I apologized? Yeah, I apologized and it got me nowhere. There were things said and done to me that made me feel it wasn't even necessary for me to apologize, yet I did it to be the bigger person. And when I asked if I was going to get an apology I was told no because they weren't sorry for telling me to kill myself. And at the time that they told me to kill myself, I actually attempted suicide. Obviously it didn't work. I'm still here.
I don't understand why this girl gets backed up on the respect issue when most of the people that backed her up are the people that couldn't respect me. It angers me and it upsets me. But the thing is, it shouldn't because I like the fandoms I'm playing around in now, that actually show respect to people, except for that one anonymous comment I got. But people stuck up for me after I got that comment, even tho I'm pretty sure the girl who stuck up for me didn't like the story either. But she did it because she's a friend and felt the comment was uncalled for.
I'm not sure what I'm even trying to say here. I guess the point is, if you want other people to respect you, you should show some respect too. The fandom that this whole thing is about, they act very... high school. All banning together for the purpose of excluding others when someone does something wrong to ONE person. It makes no sense since most of the girls in this fandom are out of high school and some are even out of college.
It's been almost four months and I haven't really talked to any of the girls in this fandom. And I've pretty much dumped the fandom just because I can't deal with those girls. Yeah, at one point, I wanted to get back in with them, but the thing is... I don't want them to gang up on me again if I disagree with something. I don't want to be banned from things just because I speak my mind in a journal entry because of something that happened that was kind of upsetting to me. Did they ever think I write these entries to get things off my chest in order to deal with it and move past it? Probably not and highly doubtful.
Respect is a two way street. And if this post makes them feel like I'm disrespecting them, then so be it because like I said, it doesn't really matter if I get back in with that clique. Srsly. Another thing that was said in this post that I read is that the fandom is small enough and we should be encouraging each other and not excluding. Well, what the hell did they do to me? Even after I apologized? Even after almost four months of leaving them all alone and not butting in on anything and just... everything.
In my honest opinion... Fandom sucks and fandom is great. There's always going to be those people that aren't respectful of others' decisions to write what they want, the way they want or even have respect to let people disagree with things that are scheduled / handled / or what not. It doesn't mean we hate you, just because we disagree. And yes, people are allowed to complain about things that they don't like or that irk them. It doesn't mean they're being disrespectful, not necessarily. It just means they don't like something and they need to vent. And I'm sure there are plenty of you out there that need to vent about things sometimes and you mean no disrespect.
I don't understand why this girl gets backed up on the respect issue when most of the people that backed her up are the people that couldn't respect me. It angers me and it upsets me. But the thing is, it shouldn't because I like the fandoms I'm playing around in now, that actually show respect to people, except for that one anonymous comment I got. But people stuck up for me after I got that comment, even tho I'm pretty sure the girl who stuck up for me didn't like the story either. But she did it because she's a friend and felt the comment was uncalled for.
I'm not sure what I'm even trying to say here. I guess the point is, if you want other people to respect you, you should show some respect too. The fandom that this whole thing is about, they act very... high school. All banning together for the purpose of excluding others when someone does something wrong to ONE person. It makes no sense since most of the girls in this fandom are out of high school and some are even out of college.
It's been almost four months and I haven't really talked to any of the girls in this fandom. And I've pretty much dumped the fandom just because I can't deal with those girls. Yeah, at one point, I wanted to get back in with them, but the thing is... I don't want them to gang up on me again if I disagree with something. I don't want to be banned from things just because I speak my mind in a journal entry because of something that happened that was kind of upsetting to me. Did they ever think I write these entries to get things off my chest in order to deal with it and move past it? Probably not and highly doubtful.
Respect is a two way street. And if this post makes them feel like I'm disrespecting them, then so be it because like I said, it doesn't really matter if I get back in with that clique. Srsly. Another thing that was said in this post that I read is that the fandom is small enough and we should be encouraging each other and not excluding. Well, what the hell did they do to me? Even after I apologized? Even after almost four months of leaving them all alone and not butting in on anything and just... everything.
In my honest opinion... Fandom sucks and fandom is great. There's always going to be those people that aren't respectful of others' decisions to write what they want, the way they want or even have respect to let people disagree with things that are scheduled / handled / or what not. It doesn't mean we hate you, just because we disagree. And yes, people are allowed to complain about things that they don't like or that irk them. It doesn't mean they're being disrespectful, not necessarily. It just means they don't like something and they need to vent. And I'm sure there are plenty of you out there that need to vent about things sometimes and you mean no disrespect.
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Date: September 29th, 2010 02:26 am (UTC)Sorry to tell you this, but you did. I’m pretty much an outsider to all of this bullshit (though I’ve been filled in on most of the details), and even I can tell that it was your whole intent.
You need to grow the fuck up. You are more than old enough to realise that not everything in fandom is about you (yes, I just checked your userinfo – get the fuck over it). Not only do you stir up a fuckload of drama, but your post is completely passive-aggressive.
So what if you don’t like something that a writer has chosen to expend their creative energies on? I don’t like hancest, and I don’t like smut. Do I bitch and moan about that particular dislike? No, I do not. I keep it under my hat, and I don’t click on links to stories that are either hancest or smut. And if someone links me to that kind of story, I tell them I prefer not to read stories of that nature and I MOVE THE FUCK ON.
I am often quite ashamed to call myself a Hanson fan. A good many other fans, including those I choose to associate with, know how to behave themselves. Others don’t. And you so happen to fall in the latter category. As for respect, you have not a shred of it for others. You would not have made this post, or chosen to insult a very good friend of mine, if you did.
I repeat: GROW THE FUCK UP. Act your age for once in your life, not your fucking shoe size. Immaturity is not becoming in the least.
- Ez
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Date: September 29th, 2010 02:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: September 29th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)And I have every right to comment if I choose to. You posted this as a public entry. If you didn't want all and sundry coming to tear you a new one, maybe you should have been intelligent for once in your life, and made it friends only. *smiles sweetly*
Oh, and banning my journal from commenting? That's REALLY fucking mature. *eyeroll* Fucking grow a pair, would you?
- Ez
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Date: September 29th, 2010 03:24 am (UTC)